nice video! does anyone know the title of the song?
kentrene
05/03/2010
If you mean the guy that was with Lance Armstrong 5 secs out in the movie! He did not quit road racing! Just try to google it, i know what i am talking about!
kentrene
05/03/2010
Mate, Joseba Beloki returned to cycling again, but not at the same level as before. But he was cycling with the best cyclist in the world, this time for Brioches La Boulangére but he changed to Saunier Duval in the midseason. And in 2005 he changed back to his old team Once, but this time the team had another name, Liberty Seguros-Würth
doomd98
05/03/2010
That guy in the pink that wrecked never returned to cycling again… Lance said that was his scariest moment in his cycling career.
hghepo
05/03/2010
Just ask Dr Heier to contest those research article:
Changes in blood values in elite cyclist.
or
Changes in blood profiles during Tour de France 2007
from Mørkeberg JS, Belhage B, Damsgaard R.
Research studies are open to critics of all others scientist (or not) members.
Until he has done something validated by people working on the field of blood doping and transfusion, I don’t give any credence to his words about that subject.
hghepo
05/03/2010
NEVER AFLD reported that Lance were dehydrated. If not reference please.
Do you believe that doping transfusion are similar to normal transfusion? Do you believe that they are done with the same goal to improve health?
My arguments are not mine only, 4 members (Morkeberg Behague Parisotto Ashenden), at least, of WADA biopassport group think so. Damsgaard had thought so for Rasmussen’s case, very similar to Lance. Since paid by Lance’s team he has changed his mind with no plausible explanation.
tuber8440
05/03/2010
I notice you chose not to comment further on what I said about the severe dehydration. Interesting.
Dr Heier is a specialist in TRANSFUSION MEDICINE. Considering Armstrong is being accused of having a transfusion, I think Dr Heier is by FAR the more qualified person to comment.
I am not burying my head in the sand. You simply cannot see through your own arrogance that there could perhaps be another side to this argument besides your own.
run2win352
05/03/2010
poor Beloki 0:05
hghepo
05/03/2010
His superior backed up the questions asked by Mørkeberg. I am completely in agreement with Jakob about his interpretation of the results, he told Cyclingnews. They are not normal, not dropping when you should expect them to drop. And on the other hand, the reticulocytes are dropping when they shouldnt.
hghepo
05/03/2010
Dr Heier is NOT an expert in blood doping ! He’s certainly a brilliant professor of medicine, but blood doping is not his science field. Could you give us a reference of one of his research publication in blood doping?
Mørkeberg has just finished a Ph. D. dissertation entitled Detection of Autologous Blood Transfusions via Analyses of Peripheral Blood Samples.
Pr. Belhage & Pr Saugy of Lausanne have supported Morkeberg.
By supporting Heir’s position u prefer to burry ur head in sand
tuber8440
05/03/2010
@hghepo
What about Dr Hans Erik Heier, who doesn’t just have a PhD but it actually a respected professor? Why don’t we quote him as an expert when he actually is one?
Because he disagreed with Mørkeberg and stated that he interpreted the results of the tests to mean that Armstrong was clean.
At the end of the day, I trust the professor over some student who isn’t really qualified to comment
tuber8440
05/03/2010
@hghepo “Severe dehydration” you say? I would like to hope that statement is backed up by facts, but I suspect you just made that up as you have no way of knowing such a thing.
Also, do you know who the “blood doping expert” is who called these blood values suspicious? A guy called Jakob Mørkeberg. Any idea what he does? I’ll tell you. He is no world-renowned expert, he is a student, doesn’t even have a PhD yet. Why is he the expert being quoted all the time?
tuber8440
05/03/2010
@hghepo Please, stop pretending you know what you are talking about regarding his blood values when you clearly do not.
To have such a jump? I have looked at his results card, and the differences are minimal, I cannot say for certain without more information but I would strongly suspect that the changes between data points are within expected experimental error parameters, meaning it is illogical and scientifically irresponsible to make a comparison between them.
hghepo
05/03/2010
Error. Your are confusing because even dehydration would have been detected by off-score parameter which is his main reason to be.
To have a such jump by dehydration, that would have been a severe dehydration, especially at the morning! And what about the other day? Could he have raced in that condition and be performant? NO. Your point makes no sense and don’t resist to facts and reality.
tuber8440
05/03/2010
@hghepo The increases weren’t that major, and in a report to the AFLD the UCI stated that some of his urine samples were very concentrated, indicating that he had been dehydrated.
franrafuki
05/03/2010
shut up loser..LANCE 7 TOURS
crimen
05/03/2010
HA HA HA HA HAttteeer!!!!
crimen
05/03/2010
love the video. GO LANCE!!!
franrafuki
05/03/2010
Go for your 8th superhuman
hghepo
06/03/2010
How about your blood values Lance?
How do you explain the major increases of hematocrit combined with hemoglobin? Why that’s happen on rest day? Why it’s so similar to a blood transfusion? Don’t say you had diarrhea or you were dehydrated, if it were true how would you have been competitive in a such state?
name of the song please..
great video..
Nice. Thanks Kolobrzeski.
Holy shit he’s prety ripped for a cyclist
thanks a lot
“Now we are free” by Dreamgate
nice video! does anyone know the title of the song?
If you mean the guy that was with Lance Armstrong 5 secs out in the movie! He did not quit road racing! Just try to google it, i know what i am talking about!
Mate, Joseba Beloki returned to cycling again, but not at the same level as before. But he was cycling with the best cyclist in the world, this time for Brioches La Boulangére but he changed to Saunier Duval in the midseason. And in 2005 he changed back to his old team Once, but this time the team had another name, Liberty Seguros-Würth
That guy in the pink that wrecked never returned to cycling again… Lance said that was his scariest moment in his cycling career.
Just ask Dr Heier to contest those research article:
Changes in blood values in elite cyclist.
or
Changes in blood profiles during Tour de France 2007
from Mørkeberg JS, Belhage B, Damsgaard R.
Research studies are open to critics of all others scientist (or not) members.
Until he has done something validated by people working on the field of blood doping and transfusion, I don’t give any credence to his words about that subject.
NEVER AFLD reported that Lance were dehydrated. If not reference please.
Do you believe that doping transfusion are similar to normal transfusion? Do you believe that they are done with the same goal to improve health?
My arguments are not mine only, 4 members (Morkeberg Behague Parisotto Ashenden), at least, of WADA biopassport group think so. Damsgaard had thought so for Rasmussen’s case, very similar to Lance. Since paid by Lance’s team he has changed his mind with no plausible explanation.
I notice you chose not to comment further on what I said about the severe dehydration. Interesting.
Dr Heier is a specialist in TRANSFUSION MEDICINE. Considering Armstrong is being accused of having a transfusion, I think Dr Heier is by FAR the more qualified person to comment.
I am not burying my head in the sand. You simply cannot see through your own arrogance that there could perhaps be another side to this argument besides your own.
poor Beloki 0:05
His superior backed up the questions asked by Mørkeberg. I am completely in agreement with Jakob about his interpretation of the results, he told Cyclingnews. They are not normal, not dropping when you should expect them to drop. And on the other hand, the reticulocytes are dropping when they shouldnt.
Dr Heier is NOT an expert in blood doping ! He’s certainly a brilliant professor of medicine, but blood doping is not his science field. Could you give us a reference of one of his research publication in blood doping?
Mørkeberg has just finished a Ph. D. dissertation entitled Detection of Autologous Blood Transfusions via Analyses of Peripheral Blood Samples.
Pr. Belhage & Pr Saugy of Lausanne have supported Morkeberg.
By supporting Heir’s position u prefer to burry ur head in sand
@hghepo
What about Dr Hans Erik Heier, who doesn’t just have a PhD but it actually a respected professor? Why don’t we quote him as an expert when he actually is one?
Because he disagreed with Mørkeberg and stated that he interpreted the results of the tests to mean that Armstrong was clean.
At the end of the day, I trust the professor over some student who isn’t really qualified to comment
@hghepo “Severe dehydration” you say? I would like to hope that statement is backed up by facts, but I suspect you just made that up as you have no way of knowing such a thing.
Also, do you know who the “blood doping expert” is who called these blood values suspicious? A guy called Jakob Mørkeberg. Any idea what he does? I’ll tell you. He is no world-renowned expert, he is a student, doesn’t even have a PhD yet. Why is he the expert being quoted all the time?
@hghepo Please, stop pretending you know what you are talking about regarding his blood values when you clearly do not.
To have such a jump? I have looked at his results card, and the differences are minimal, I cannot say for certain without more information but I would strongly suspect that the changes between data points are within expected experimental error parameters, meaning it is illogical and scientifically irresponsible to make a comparison between them.
Error. Your are confusing because even dehydration would have been detected by off-score parameter which is his main reason to be.
To have a such jump by dehydration, that would have been a severe dehydration, especially at the morning! And what about the other day? Could he have raced in that condition and be performant? NO. Your point makes no sense and don’t resist to facts and reality.
@hghepo The increases weren’t that major, and in a report to the AFLD the UCI stated that some of his urine samples were very concentrated, indicating that he had been dehydrated.
shut up loser..LANCE 7 TOURS
HA HA HA HA HAttteeer!!!!
love the video. GO LANCE!!!
Go for your 8th superhuman
How about your blood values Lance?
How do you explain the major increases of hematocrit combined with hemoglobin? Why that’s happen on rest day? Why it’s so similar to a blood transfusion? Don’t say you had diarrhea or you were dehydrated, if it were true how would you have been competitive in a such state?